Show: Interactive Wrestling
Guest: "The Franchise" Shane Douglas
Your Hosts: Patrick Kelley, James Walsh, & Nick Noel
"The Franchise" Shane Douglas last joined us in 2004 the week of WrestleMania
XX... And he spent nearly 2 hours with us! This time, we spend 36 minutes
with the Franchise discussing his latest project, the Extreme Reunion. Contrary
to what you might believe, it isn't just a reunion of the ECW stars but is
an attempt to relaunch the brand, the Extreme Brand! Does that make you feel
differently about it? Well, it does for me!
Pointed shots at the WWE and TNA's attempt to relaunch ECW and a lot of other
cool discussions. This interview is well worth your time and we thank "The
Franchise" for giving us this great interview and the older great interview.
Both can be heard right here at www.WrestlingEpicenter.com.
Plus Interactive Wrestling Radio discusses TNA, the infamous injury, and
all things WWE!
- The Franchise is welcomed back to Tii to promote his
new ECW Reunion show in April. He says that everything thus far has gone
very well. He feels that all the different reunion shows (like WWE &
TNA's attempts) have weakened the brand and expected more difficulty doing
- His opinion that WWE & TNA's attempts at ECW Reunion
shows were insulting and did a lot to anger & upset the fans. However,
he has found that the true fans of ECW's past are excited for what he has
- He feels that ECW is so fondly remembered because it
was such a polar opposite to what WWF, WCW, & everything else was doing.
The other products were accessable for kids, but not adults, and that's what
ECW was able to accomplish.
- His reaction to the ECW Arena now being used for wrestling
anymore: He's not sure if its finalized yet, but hasn't tried to book the
venue for one of his shows. He hopes that this decision doesn't come to pass
and that those in charge realize what a great wrestling venue it is. The
energy that the ECW brand captured in that building saved the Wrestling business
in his eyes.
- Shane is not a fan of WWE or TNA's products, but wants
them to do well. He feels that if Wrestling had multiple successes &
strong brands, then the whole business succeeds. Wrestling was at its finest
when WWF, WCW, & ECW were all red hot.
- The plan for Extreme Reunion is to do the first show
and hopefully make it successful enough to launch as a permanent brand that
can offer something different to Wrestling fans, much like ECW did back in
the day. It is not just a reunion of the ECW stars but an attempted relaunch.
Shane takes aim at WWE, TNA, and Francine's attempts to do ECW reunions calling
them "piss poor".
- When ECW first started, nobody knew who Tommy Dreamer,
Sabu, Sandman, Taz, Shane Douglas, & the like were, but were made into
stars through the ECW Brand. One of the goals of a relaunch is to create
a new group of misfit stars.
- He never saw Hardcore Justice, TNA's ECW Reunion show.
He never saw the full show, but was disgusted by the extremely low pay that
the talents got that night as opposed to Flair & Hogan extremely large
paychecks. He didn't do the show over money disputes. He described what they
offered him as "laughable" but counteroffered that he'd work for free if
they made a donation to Wounded Warriors.
- Shane, had he worked Hardcore Justice, would have wanted
to work with Ric Flair just to settle their issues going back to the 90s.
Whatever personal problems he has with Flair, he does respect him as a performer,
though he feels he is over the hill now.
- When talking about the Flair/Franchise Slamboree match,
he said he wanted to work professionally with Flair to do the best work for
WCW. However, he later found out that Flair suggested alot of the bad ideas
that litered that feud. It means nothing to him that he went over, and says
that they hit each other with some stiff shots. He respected Flair for never
complaining about those shots.
- Jesse Ventura used to say on commentary that he was
"From the Rush Limbaugh Institute". He says that Ventura & he used to
have political debates, Douglas more conservative and Jesse more liberal.
He says that he was amazed that Jesse won the governorship and governed as
conservatively as he did. He also put over Jesse as a very intelligent
- When asked about "Perfect Strangers" by Deep Purple,
he says that it was originally supposed to belong to Chris Benoit, while
Douglas originally used "Are You Gonna Go My Way" by Lenny Kravitz. They
wound up using "Perfect Strangers" as part of Triple Threat with Benoit &
Malenko and just kept it after they left it. He feels that song captures
The Franchise character perfectly.
- He is hopeful that the Extreme Reunion will bring in
a new group of young fans whose parents followed the original ECW.
- When asked about Johnny Ace's role in WWE & the
shots against The Dynamic Dudes, he says that he doesn't watch the show
regularly. Personally, he says that it wasn't one of his better runs &
didn't ike the name, but he isn't ashamed of the run. He says it was the
first time in wrestling that he made good money and felt had they stuck with
the original name "The Next Generation", it would have worked better.
- He talks about he feels Johnny Ace was a bad mic worker
back in the day and is probably worse now, and bad promos are a major problem
in wrestling today. So many of the talking segments either have no point,
run too long, are poorly delivered word for word scripts, or a combination
of all those problems. That's one major aspect of wrestling he would like
- When asked if Paul Heyman will play any role in this
new reunion, he simply answers "Stay Tuned".
- When commented that "Shane Douglas was Triple H before
Triple H was" he says that he was never upset by any similarities and appreciates
hard work & trying to capture an individual spirit.
- When WCW & ECW folded, wrestling as a whole took
a major hit, and Shane feels that losing ECW in particular caused wrestling
to lose logical & adult storylines. That is something he wants to recapture.
He also says that Heyman let the stars be themselves and the team effort
from the boys carried the ball. The Franchise was mostly his own creation
as well. Now, the stars are just forced to act out a step for step script
without injecting their own personality into what they are given.
- Before ending the inreview, we get one last plug for
Extreme Reunion as it hopefully succeeds and brings about another wrestling