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SIMON DIAMOND, JIMMY HART, & MISSY HYATT
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 First, rejoice
and celebrate the Christmas season with your friend James. Then, welcome
some guests to the party as your friend bring you "The Mouth of the South"
Jimmy Hart, "The First Lady of Wrestling" Missy Hyatt, and "Simon Diamond"
Pat Kenny in brand new interviews recorded exclusively for this Christmas
special!
Be it politically incorrect or not, TII wishes all our
listeners a Merry Christmas with this free show that you can download and
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JIMMY HART, MISSY HYATT, & "SIMON DIAMOND"
PAT KENNEY
-- The show opens with a little Christmas Eve/ Sarajevo
by the Trans Siberian Orchestra. Sting leads in the "Mouth of the South"
Jimmy Hart!
-- Jimmy is doing fantastic. He is excited about the
release of his book "Mouth of the South, The Jimmy Hart Story" which you
can buy off Amazon.com by going to this address.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1550225952/qid=1103878556/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/102-0995065-3764904.
-- In addition to Jimmy's book, there is a film in the
works that will feature footage of Jimmy then and now and will feature people
like Andy Kaufman and Hulk Hogan as well. James mentions that this is a good
concept and that Jake Roberts was planning on doing something along those
lines instead of a book because he feels nobody can tell the story of his
life in text the way he can in words.
-- Jimmy says he loves being with TNA. He praises Jerry
Jarrett as one of his first wrestling bosses. Jimmy mentions how glad he
is to see TNA get on Fox Sports Net and mentions that he was part of bringing
TNA to Fox and to Universal Studios at Sound Stage 21.
-- The TNA "Impact Zone" is not the same venue that WCW
used for their World Wide tapings. WCW used Sound Stage 22 and TNA is at
Sound Stage 21. But, Jimmy says they are very similar.
-- "I'm not at the gorilla or in the tuck in the first
place! So, that is what was so bizarre," said Jimmy when asked about the
"Macho Man" Randy Savage demands of Jimmy not being in either of the above
mentioned places during any of his appearances. Jimmy says the whole thing
became laughable and the guys backstage made jokes when Jimmy would walk
by saying, "We have to put in our contracts that Jimmy can't be in the truck
or on the head sets." And, Jimmy also feels it is laughable because Randy
ended up leaving the company a week later.
-- Jimmy says you are judged by the company you keep
and you tend to stand by your friends and be on their side in an argument
with someone else. Well, Jimmy is friends with both Hulk and Randy so he
was caught in the middle.
-- Jimmy says the confrontation between Hulk and Randy
backstage at Victory Road was not at all heated or violent. He feels Hogan
doesn't have enough time in a day to get involved in a physical or intense
confrontation.
-- Jimmy says his music career was somewhat successful
as he was a part of the Gentrys but mentions that he'd never have been involved
in professional wrestling if his music career was extremely successful. But,
he had a lot of fun doing the music for wrestling and goes on to mention
"Sexy Boy," the Shawn Michaels theme as one of his favorite works.
-- Jimmy is stepping back into the ring on December 26
for Memphis Wrestling as he teams with Jerry Lawler one last time to face
Cory Maclin and the WWE's Eugene. You can watch a replay of this event by
going to Jerry Lawler's web site, www.KingLawler.com.
-- Jimmy is going to release a home video collection
of the XWF shows they ran in late 2001 mixed with some backstage footage
and such so keep an eye out for that in the near future. Also, check out
Jimmy's book in book stores everywhere and at Amazon.com!
-- The show rolls along as "Police Stop My Car," a spoof
of "Felis Navidad" is played. Hey, we promised you a Christmas Jam, did we
not?
-- Missy Hyatt is then welcomed to the show. She quickly
mentions that it is not only Christmas time but it just was Hanukkah time.
James apologizes for being "politically incorrect."
-- James mentions that the new web site,
www.MissyHyattandFrancineTV.com , is finally up and running. Missy laughs
and says not to say "finally." Missy said they felt they needed to find the
right guy to do the site and not just anybody. James agrees saying, "It has
to be perfect, yes?"
-- Missy feels males will find the pictures hot and females
will enjoy the site also by checking out the videos. She feels the videos
are a lot of fun because now it is Francine and her being themselves and
goofing off backstage at shows. She also mentions that she sneaks up and
has video of Francine going to the bathroom and when she just woke up in
the morning. She feels the video section allows people to see them in a light
they've never seen before.
-- Missy is loving what she is doing with the Funks for
Bang TV. She says fans can check out info about Bang TV by going to
www.Dory-Funk.com.
-- Missy has not seen the "Rise and Fall of ECW" release.
James mentions being surprised that Francine is not even mentioned in the
release. Missy seems surprised to hear this and says, "Francine IS the Queen
of Extreme."
-- Missy says the real rise of ECW came from Eastern
Championship Wrestling and the mind behind it, Eddie Gilbert. She says it
was Eddie and Terry who brought hardcore wrestling from Japan to the United
States.
-- As for the fall of ECW, "it was Paul who killed it."
James seems surprised that Missy said this and asks if she is going on record
as saying this. Missy says she will is going on record saying this because
Paul let everybody down in order to go work for the WWE which has always
been his "wet dream."
-- "He sacrificed everybody. Everybody's job, the whole
company just to get a space on WWE TV. I love Paul E. to death but, he
did."
-- Missy says she considers Paul like a little brother.
She mentions begging Eddie to let Paul to come and work for him. From there
he followed them to WCW and then the whole ECW situation went down.
-- "The company may have gone bankrupt but Paul E. didn't."
She feels Paul wrote checks for himself but not for Sabu or others.
-- Missy once again plugs the site and mentions a new
feature. Monday nights at 11 p.m. you can chat live with Francine on the
site and on Sunday afternoon, you can chat with Missy as well. Check out
www.MissyHyattandFrancineTV.com. I've been there, seen it, and trust me.
It is worth the small entrance fee!
-- To be politically correct, James and Dan spin Adam
Sandler's "Hanukkah Song."
-- "Simon Diamond" Pat Kenney joins James and Daniel
next.
-- Pat felt Turning Point was a home run. He feels at
this important stage of TNA, they need to hit home runs all the time.
-- His match at Turning Point, himself and Johnny B.
Badd against The New York Connection, went well in Pat's opinion. He does
say, though, that it was not built up very much. James then asks if it was
supposed to be a 6-person-tag as some reported and he said he heard that
rumor but it was always presented to him as a tag.
-- As for the main event "Six Sides of Steel" match,
Pat was amazed by the match. Watching the moves they did, all he could say
was "not me!"
-- Pat dislocated his shoulder 3 times in the span of
3 years while he was playing college sports. Back then, the warthogs surgery
wasn't as advanced as it is now. So, through the effects of those injuries,
his college baseball days were over.
-- Pat then tells the story of how he got involved in
wrestling through a contact at Pepsi Cola. He explains how he has always
been a big wrestling fan so he gave it a shot. His trainer told him to prepare
for life after wrestling so he finished college and then sank his teeth into
being a professional wrestler.
-- Pat talks at length about getting in the business
and working for Jim Ketner and ECWA which lead to PCW. He mentions the PCW
crew was an impressive bunch with Reckless Youth, Billy Kidman, Crowbar,
Ace Darling, Edge, Christian, and a collection of other young stars that
went on to hit it big.
-- Early in ECW, Pat worked with Dick Hurts in an angle
he enjoyed. The night he was to work with Tommy Dreamer at a house show,
which is known to b a test to see if you will get a push, Dick "had a problem."
So, Dick tearing up the locker room certainly didn't help him and as such,
Tommy gave Pat two options. Either a singles match with Swinger or teaming
with Swinger against two guys Dusty Rhodes is training. Pat chose the latter
because he knew Dusty Rhodes would critique it and he valued Dusty's opinion
and loved one of Dusty's rivals, Tully Blanchard. "It just clicked," said
Pat and now he still considers Swinger one of his best friends in the business.
He considers himself lucky to have made such good friends in the
business.
-- Pat feels the Rise and fall of ECW is perhaps the
best WWE home video release in years. He feels it is fairly accurate but
they left a few things out.
-- Pat feels there were a few reasons for the fall of
ECW. For one, TNN which goes without saying. The other reason is Paul stopped
creating new stars. He feels that is because Paul is a very "hands on" person
and didn't want to delegate authority. So, when ECW had TNN, they also had
the Hardcore TV in many major markets. Paul found himself having to handle
2 hours of TV a week and was a "control freak" which hurt the creative process.
-- Pat feels Paul brought a lot of stars to America.
He mentions Benoit, Guerrero, Taz, and several others that Paul introduced
to America and made valuable stars. He goes on to say that wrestling is a
star oriented business and you need to find the guys who will get ratings,
sell merchandise, and accumulate buy rates. So, as Taz, Raven, The Sandman,
The Dudley Boys, and others left the company, Paul didn't build new stars
to take their place. The luxury that sports teams has, in Pat's opinion,
is the fact that the fans discover the next big star by team loyalty. He
mentions a line of stars from the Yankees though the years as to the chain
of stars that followed thanks to the franchise loyalty. Wrestling, though,
doesn't have that to rely upon and as such new stars must be created. James
mentions how after Hogan, Vince made Bret. After Bret, Vince made Stone Cold,
and so forth. Pat agrees.
-- The show then runs to a brief commercial break. The
show returns to a twisted Christmas parody of "Holly Jolly Christmas" called
"Horny Porny Christmas."
-- Still with "Simon Diamond" Pat Kenney, Daniel asks
his thoughts on the short-lived MECW promotion run by John Collins and why
it failed. In a word, "money" is Pat's answer. He goes on to explain how
wrestling is not an overnight business and mentions the need for the same
stars we discussed above. Well, you have to pay to hire those stars plus
pay for the TV production and the next thing you know, you're losing money
rapidly.
-- Pat thought the XWF would have worked. He feels the
production was off the charts and that if the backers had stayed with it,
it would have had stayed with it, the XWF would have had legs. He then mentions
why the backers back out of wrestling promotions so quickly. Making up numbers,
Pat says if you spend $1,000,000 on 2 days of TV tapings and you sell $4,000
in merchandise, backers are going to look at the fact that you're $996,000
in the hole and tell you, as James put it, to "take a hike." Pat says it
takes years of work to make a wrestling company profitable and points at
Vince McMahon as the perfect example of someone had to borrow to the hills
to make his money but now that he has, he's a billionaire.
-- Financial backing is also why MLW didn't work.
-- Pat loved working for MLW, though. He loved the "Extreme
Horsemen" angle. As a matter of fact, Pat was told by Paul Heyman that they
were going to do a Horsemen style angle with him, Corino, and C. W. Anderson
when he initially signed with ECW. So, seeing it come to pass in MLW was
a lot of fun for him and he also enjoyed breaking out of that "comedy" character
and getting an edge while in MLW.
-- The negatives of MLW, in Daniel, James, and Pat's
minds, was it looked entirely too much like ECW. Pat said he said the day
ECW closed to let it rest in peace.
-- James mentions how well he feels the split between
"Simon & Swinger" should have been received by the live audience and
how the "redneck audience" ruined it by chanting ICP. Pat says he feels it
was disheartening but does not blame the regular TNA crowd for it. He says
the ICP fans were taking over the Asylum and as such, they only wanted to
see ICP. Pat says that was an attempt toreach over to other types of media
to attract the ICP audience and turn them into wrestling fans. Again, star
oriented business.
-- James compares the ICP invasion of the Asylum to if
Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley decided to lace up the boots. Simon jumps in
by saying if that were to happen, you wouldn't even be able to get near the
Asylum because the KISS Army would flood the place. James mentions being
a proud member of the KISS Army and Pat says he is as well. He tells a story
of buying a 3 album pack of KISS with Hotter than Hell and 2 other albums
in there as a kid and it came with a big KISS Army logo sticker which went
immediately on his wall and a patch. Pat says he did not have a jean jacket
back then but he had a Vikings jacket. So, he had his mom patch the KISS
Army logo patch on the arm of the Vikings jacket. James chimes in by saying
he struts around town in a jean jacket with all 4 KISS faces on it and the
KISS Army logo on the arm as well. Pat laughs and says every day he works
out, he wears an Ace Frehley T shirt.
-- Daniel puts the conversation back to wrestling and
asks about the name change from Simon Diamond to Pat Kenny. Pat simply says,
"it's not working." He feels the best way for it to have worked is if they
really went all out and pushed the new name heavily which obviously was not
going to happen. He mentions doing a fan fest before the pay per view and
having 9 out of 10 people ask him to sign their autograph "Simon
Diamond."
-- Daniel asks what Simon would do if he was booker.
Pat says he'd take himself off of TV or at least out of the active roster
because bookers that are active either push themselves too hard or too lightly.
As for his name, he'd find a way to go back to being Simon Diamond if
possible.
-- We then roll out with some word associations including
Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Vince McMahon, Jasmin St. Claire, The Extreme Horsemen,
Johnny Swinger, and a truthful answer to Dawn Marie where Pat admits they
are no longer involved but still considers her a good friend and the hardest
working female in the business.
-- Somehow Daniel, James, and Simon start discussing
the NWO and how Hogan was the glue that made it work. Pat says it right,
"there was nothing cool about that version of Hogan." He was the flat out
heel and did things like wear the blond wig that looked stupid on him just
to anger the crowd. Pat says that's called "showing ass."
-- James and Pat laugh as they talk about the "politically
incorrect" sign off of "Merry Christmas" which both say loud and proud. Lets
just hope the ACLU doesn't sue us.
-- The show then runs into a metal version of Noel by
the Trans Siberian Orchestra as Daniel and James talk about Christmas, the
possible upcoming ECW pay per view, the fantastic Christmas "Classic Wrestling"
pay per view currently on Events In Demand, and all things wrestling!
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!
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